cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/12546096

Gaza’s government media office accused the Israeli army of “committing a horrific massacre”. More than 70 people were killed and about 250 others wounded, it said in a statement on Thursday.

The citizens had congregated at al-Rashid Street, where aid trucks carrying flour were believed to be on the way. Al Jazeera verified footage showing the bodies of dozens of killed and wounded Palestinians being carried onto trucks as no ambulances could reach the area.

“I have been waiting since yesterday. At about 4.30 this morning, trucks started to come through. Once we approached the aid trucks, the Israeli tanks and warplanes started firing at us, as if it was a trap.

  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Not voting for Biden is not a vote for Trump

    Yes it is, full stop. I’m not having the idiotic argument with you so don’t bother.

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      8 months ago

      Bullying people into voting for your candidate is not helping, and potentially could be hurting. Unless, maybe that’s your intention.

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      8 months ago

      No it isn’t, no matter how much you lie about it, the math doesn’t support you in the slightest. A third party vote is equivalent to not voting at all, which is not voting for Trump. Fucking arrogant liar.

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        Show me your plan to get 51% of the electorate to vote 3rd party and you’d be correct. 51% of the electorate will not vote 3rd party, so you are 100% incorrect. A vote for 3rd party, in reality, is throwing away your vote allowing the candidate who is polling higher a better chance at winning.

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          “Throwing your vote away” isn’t a vote for Trump, it’s equivalent to not voting at all, which is exactly what I fucking said. I don’t even know what the point of your comment is. Just arguing with me because you’re butthurt that I criticized your boy?

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        8 months ago

        I don’t doubt you’re stupid. But you understand basic arithmetic. There must be a reason you pretend not to… Gee I wonder why

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          Maybe I’d understand if you explained it to me, how does not voting for Biden become a vote for Trump but not voting for Trump doesn’t become a vote for Biden? If I voted third party would this be a vote for both or against both? Could you write out this arithmetic for me?

          Genuinely curious, I don’t understand what you’re trying to to say. I’m not playing stupid

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            Any single vote lost for Biden allows the Trump voters (who don’t give 2 shits about genocide in Gaza) 1 less vote against their guy, which in turn makes it more likely Trump will win. First Past The Post is a winner take all thing. There’s no 2nd place in politics.

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              Has Biden considered not supporting genocide then? He’d get a lot more votes that way. Politicians should bend to the will of the people not the other way around.

              Besides Biden hasn’t “lost votes”, he just hasn’t done anything to earn them other than not be Trump. I wouldn’t count a vote he never had as a vote that he lost

              See also:

              Even if Biden does get elected it’s just adding a few more years to the clock

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                Interesting how even when it’s spelled out you reject the premise and pivot back to your talking points, regardless of how true the original point is

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                  8 months ago

                  At least I now understand what I’m arguing against. If anything I shows I’m consistant in my beliefs.

                  You said blank and I said please elaborate on blank and when someone else elaborated for you I said I disagree with that because of blank and then you came back to make a short quip about it bc that’s the only only thing you do

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                    8 months ago

                    No you claimed you didn’t understand something, then immediately discarded the explanation when it was given.

                    As I expected, you already understood and you were simply sealioning

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        Trump is polling higher than Biden, so no. Abstaining from voting is the same thing as voting for the more popular candidate. You need to learn how your country’s electoral system works.