Among candidates for U.S. sanctions, Israel’s Prison Service should be next on the list. This is apparently the realm where all the sadistic instincts of the minister of national security, Itamar Ben-Gvir, find their outlet.
On October 26, large forces of the Prison Service’s Keter unit, a tactical intervention unit, accompanied by dogs, one of them unleashed, stormed into the prison. The wardens and the dogs went on a rampage, attacking the inmates whose screams left the whole prison in a state of terror, Abu Halil recalls. The walls were soon covered with inmates’ blood. “You are Hamas, you are ISIS, you raped, murdered, abducted and now your time has come,” said one warden to the prisoners. The blows that followed were brutal, the inmates were shackled.
The beatings became a daily affair. Occasionally the guards demanded of prisoners that they kiss an Israeli flag and declaim, “Am Yisrael Chai!” – “The People of Israel live.” They were also ordered to curse the prophet Mohammed. The usual call to prayer in the cells was prohibited. The prisoners were afraid to utter any word starting with the sound “h” lest the guards suspect they had said “Hamas.”
On October 29, the inmates of Abu Halil’s cell requested a squeegee to wash the floor. The response to that was to send the terrifying Keter unit into their cell. “Now you will be like dogs,” the guards ordered. The prisoners’ hands were cuffed behind their back. Even before they were shackled, they were ordered to move only with their upper body bent over. They were led to the kitchen, where they were stripped and forced to lie one on top of the other, a pile of 10 naked prisoners. Abu Halil was the last. There, they were beaten with clubs and spat on.
A guard then started to stuff carrots into the anus of Abu Halil and other prisoners. Sitting at home now, reciting his story, Abu Halil lowers his gaze and the flow of words slows down. He’s embarrassed to talk about this. Afterward, he continues, dogs hunched over them and attacked them. They were then allowed to put on their underwear before being led back to their cell, where they found their clothes thrown into a heap.
Well… the Israeli prisoners didn’t get to say much, because they’re dead.
I’m so tired of the which side is worse propaganda. Both sides are fucking awful.
Tbf a bunch of the israeli prisoners most likely got bombed to death by their own military.
There’s a lot more dead Palestinian children than dead Israeli prisoners. Its also hard to pretend Hamas isnt a direct consequence of decades of oppression, or that half the population of Palestine are children and most never even had a chance in the decision yet they are the ones receiving most of the missles.
Or the difference in fire power. Israel could just pull out if they wanted to, the ratio of deaths between both nations is ridiculous.
Sure Hamas sucks but Israel is literally committing genocide with international help. So ya, one side is worse and ignoring the fact is being willfully ignorant. There is nothing to defend here, abusing prisoners is shit and it’s well known that Israel was just grabbing men off the street to toss in jail, so a lot of them probably did nothing to deserve it.
Both sides have done some fucked up shit, but let’s not pretend a terrorist attack that killed ~1160 people is on any sort of equal footing with a thinly veiled genocide campaign that has so far wiped out over 35,000 people, about half of which were children.
Let’s not forget we learned soon after Oct 7 that Israel’s government/intelligence was aware of the impending attack and did nothing. I’d wager my next paycheck that Führer Bibi saw the opportunity for an excuse to wipe out Gaza and let it happen.
Source?
It’s well known the Israeli government moved troops to the west bank to help settlers and many Israeli allies warned of chatter of an impending attack.
Here’s one story but it’s behind a paywall: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-11-20/ty-article-magazine/.premium/the-women-soldiers-who-warned-of-a-pending-hamas-attack-and-were-ignored/0000018b-ed76-d4f0-affb-eff740150000
Also Israel has delivered cash to hamas to prop them up to justify further violence against Palestinians: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-qatar-money-prop-up-hamas.html
I can’t read the first link because of the paywall, but the summary says some spotters warned something was unusual over the past year but were ignored because they were women. The Israeli government probably got some kind of warning every day even before the attack. Concluding that they knew is a real leap.
Your second link, also paywalled link, says Netanyahu wanted a somewhat strong Hamas in order to keep things stable.
You haven’t supported your claim.
Instead of writing paragraphs complaining that users and sourcing widely understood facts, you can spend a few seconds searching yourself.
I can’t find any reputable source saying Israel knew of this impending attack
I’ve done my research, where’s your source?
I don’t know what you consider a reputable source, but here’s an article about it.
I’ll quote it again
I’ve seen the NYT, and it says right in the headline that Israeli officials dismissed it as beyond hamas’ capabilities.
Ah yes, Haaretz, a well known outlet of Palestinian war propaganda.
Maybe the “most moral army in the world” should be held to a higher standard than terrorists.
propaganda is when they’re torturing prisoners
Between Israel and Hamas, Hamas is the lesser evil.
Fuck that shit. You didn’t have to choose which Serb, Croat, or Bosnian butcher was the lesser evil. Why even start to go there now?
Stop the war, protect civilians, end the apartheid, make peace and hand Israeli and Palestinian war criminals over to the ICC. Anything else is just prolonging the barbarism.
If Israel gave Palestinians full rights, Hamas would have never been a thing. I agree that the war should stop, killing each other is never the answer.
Lol…omg…lol…sure it is. Do you like women’s rights? Do you like LGBQ peeps? Do you like freedom of speech?
If so, you’re picking the wrong horse in this one.
I hope they wipe each other out at this point before the rest of the world gets in to the battle over who’s all powerful sky wizard is more cool.
Nobody likes seeing woman, LGBTQ and freedom of speech rights getting attacked. Its just any sane person likes genocide even less.
Not to mention Israel essentially created Hamas.
It’s a typical Israeli\Turkish\Azeri talking point.
Gay etc people are near you, you know some. Thousands of people being intimidated, robbed, abused and murdered are far away.
It’s a way to dehumanize the latter, a very subtle dog whistle for people in the West who indeed are fine with genocide far away.
Through women and gay people etc this makes the society of the perpetrator closer, more alive to you. It becomes “this bright modern country with such nice views and nightlife” versus some dirty stinky villagers trying to ruin that comfort. Makes the perpetrator seem “civilized” (Israelis - civilized, the joke is clear for anyone to experience these people, Azeris - civilized, now that’s postmodernism) and their lives more important. Makes you imagine that you are on their place.
Only in fact, of course, the other side too has nice views, nice homes etc, at least until those get bombed by your nice pictures provider countries. And they don’t hate their women and even gay people (when you don’t call that gay and don’t talk about that) that much.
If Hamas had better weapons they would kill every Christian, Jew and Muslim between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean. They have never made any secret of it and frequently chant about it at anti Israel protests.
And, yet, Hamas somehow never got around to killing Christians in Gaza when they were in power and it ended up being Israel that bombed churches sheltering civilians. How Ironical. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/20/gaza-church-strike-saint-porphyrius/
This is not entirely correct, Hamas is kinda hostile to Christians too, some more than others. I don’t think there are many Maronites in Gaza, for example. But they are more reasonable than Israelis try to make it seem.
They are just a weaker Muslim version of some imaginary Israel with no counterweights to puppies like Ben-Gvir (sadly not imaginary anymore) and no Western support.
Do you actually think Bibi is in support of any of those civil rights?
The illusion that israel supports LGBT is hillarious. Gay marriage is banned in israel.
Genocide for lgbt rights.
Yeah thats got a great ring to it
Yes very sad that israel keeps killing the hostages in Gaza. It seems that Netanyahu hopes to kill them all to remove any reason for protest.
Good thing that Hamas treated their hostages well in captivity though. They won’t lower themselves to the level of barbarism of israel.
We don’t get stories of Hamas cutting off hostages legs like israel does
My issue is that leftists have no problem supporting Israel.
That’s why makes them worse.