Cybersecurity firm Crowdstrike pushed an update that caused millions of Windows computers to enter recovery mode, triggering the blue screen of death. Learn …

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    4 months ago

    Also:

    Crowd strike should be held responsible, and with that I don’t mean the developmers who were forced to do this shit, I mean the ceo, the CTO.

    Jail them.

    If you are so critical you better not fuck around and I can guarantee you, they were fucking around, pushing bad practices, etc. why do I say that? Because its lways like that

    That comp ay should be dissolved, the C suite jailed.

    Also, STOP USING WINDOWS FOR DESKTOP FOR FRACK SAKE. Switch to Linux already, I’m getting tired of having to read this shit.

    If you’re using windows for servers then you deserve your place right next to those C suite guys and gals

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        To be fair this seems to be the sentiment on most Linux and linux-ancillary forums.

        Which while wrong and ignorant on multiple levels, seems on brand none the less.

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          What is wrong with saying that a paid product that is far inferior to a free (both as in beer and freedom) product should be dropped in favor of said free product when said paid product has embarrassing failures, scandals and abusive behavior on pretty much a weekly basis?

          How long ago was it that Microsoft testified in front of Congress after deciding they weren’t going to fix a security hole because the negative press would cost them contracts (and thus money) which resulted in China successfully hacking the US government? A month or so? What did the Microsoft dipshit say again? Oh yeah, THIS time (after all the previous times) the CEO would be on top of security, weally! And more importantly, weeewe sowwyyyy, we won’t do it again.

          Yes yes yes, this is a different provider, who cares? Its a core product that is only there because their system is so badly Designed in the first place.

          These are.paid products and millions if not billions of machines went down and I’m the bad guy for saying that this is not acceptable and that people should drop that paid spyware and anware shit for Linux, which is free and a hell of a lot more reliable than this windows crap? YOU ARE PAYING MONEY FOR THIS, YOU STILL GET ABUSED AND THEN ITS STILL NOT RELIABLE! WHY DO YOU A ACCEPT THIS BULLSHIT? what is wrong with you?

          Edit: At this point it’s hard not to see these reactions as a beaten and abused wife saying “oh but my husband really isn’t such a bad guy once you get to know him!”. I don’t get these attitudes, why do you accept this treatment from a multi billion dollar company?

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        Why?

        Seriously, why?

        Linux is a free system with a fraction of the daily / weekly issues that Microsoft has. Its Been like this for literally decades now.

        Microsoft Sella expensive paid systems that spy on us and still feed us advertising. This week, Microsoft and vendors caused likely billions of dollars in damage. Will there be any consequences? Nah. Even better; If I say stip using Microsoft software, I’m a bad guy!

        Just a few months ago, it came out that Microsoft consciously decided not to fix critical security hugs resulting in hacks in the US government bu the Chinese government. There was a senate hearing in this where they weally weally promised this time they would behave. I said the same back then, install Linux already and got the same responses, I’m making Linux look bad!

        So I ask you… HOW? How exactly am I the bad guy here, why isn’t everyone shitting on Microsoft and it’s providers for fucking this up so so wonderfully bad, AGAIN…?

        And mind you, we all pay for this shite. Why hasn’t anyone there hone to jail for causing shit like this by making decisions that obviously knowingly would cause this shit?

        But yeah, you’re riiiiight. I make Linux look bad, and we wouldn’t want that, now would we?

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            4 months ago

            Are you? Since you’re only able to feign an insult, I’m guessing you’re not the brightest

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              I wasn’t only able to feign an insult, I already responded to you that you’re making Linux look bad. You’re definitely a teenager with a small attention span and unable to recognize user names. I don’t actually hold it against you, I’m glad you’re interested in FOSS!

              Your advocacy is simply not effective though, insulting people for their choices may make you feel superior but it sure doesn’t make them feel good. Instead - recognize that other people are equally intelligent, and they make informed choices. As an advocate for anything seeking to sway a neutral public your purpose is to inform them of better choices, and if you do so positively and with charisma, you will associate the subject of your advocacy with said positivity in the minds of the public.

              So instead of all those rants, you could’ve simply wrote a quick and concise:

              " Linux doesn’t have these problems :) (it has other problems) "

              and been updooted to the top.

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                Yeah, been there, done that. I’ve been on a Linux desktop for over 25 years now and I’m done with the corporate Microsoft bullshit that I’ve dealt with for over 30 years of my life. If you’re new here, cool. I’m not, my patience is gone. If all Microsoft offices burn to the ground tomorrow I’ll be celebrating. I’ve had so much shit, so much time lost, so many frustrations, I’m done

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      How about holding an investigation first? You know, just to see where the wrongdoing happened and who actually perpetrated it. (It just might have been a bitter developer or something.)

      Also, if people want to use windows, it’s their choice and their consequences. Government and corporate services might do well to consider Linux, but most people don’t even know what a command line is.

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        If your (large scale) security system is designed properly a bitter developer can’t break it. It would take deliberate collusion from multiple people to do so.

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        Government and corporate services might do well to consider Linux, but most people don’t even know what a command line is.

        While this is true, Linux is not the only operating system which is not Windows.

        Haiku doesn’t require you to do much with CLI.

        OpenBSD is Unix with the accompanying culture, but it’s just more coherent to the degree that both CLI’s are very simple for administration (the way I use my non-work machine, I sometimes think that maybe I should switch ; lacking Wine and games would be an advantage, not a disadvantage) and GUI’s to do it have fewer problems than in Linux. NetBSD - a bit more messy, but same as compared to Linux, FreeBSD - even more, but same as compared to Linux. I’m talking about the base system, because X, desktop environments and such are the same.

        This doesn’t solve the problem of Windows device drivers’ support, which is realistically the main thing you’d need for an OS to be popular. Applications are important, but I think if Altera would have a big buyer willing to run Altium on Linux workstations, they’d find in themselves the effort needed make it work in Wine.

        But then there was time when ndiswrapper and ndisgen were a thing for Linux and FreeBSD users. Things may have gotten much more complex, but it’s a matter of demand.

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        but most people don’t even know what a command line is.

        Still with this? Jeez… that’s like saying people probably won’t adopt tv today because it’s still black and white.

        Linux cli is great and many of us use it because of that, but it’s been at least 15 years that a regular user would not ever NEED to use it to do anything in linux

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          I’m gonna be honest, I had to use it last night, but that was because I was installing a non-Steam Windows game (Simcity 2013) and needed to use winetricks on the terminal to configure something before it would launch. If you are doing anything outside the predefined and preconfigured stuff, it can still get pretty hairy sometimes.

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          Just last night I needed to check what my network card model was and had to open the command line to do so on Ubuntu. Couldn’t seem to find an equivalent to Windows’ Device Manager.

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        Because they’ve done that countless times before and its always the same. A few motbsh ago there was a senate hearing on ehy Microsoft knowingly caused the Chinese government hacking the US government by deciding not to fix critical security bugs to avoid losing contracts and thus,.money.

        What is the result, every damn time?

        Weeeeewwweee sowweeeyyyy, but the CEO is on it this time! THIS time we won’t fuck you over! That was what, a month ago?

        Meanwhile I say, fuck Microsoft, stop paying for that corrupt badly built spyware shit, switch to Linux, and then I’m the bad guy.

        Edit: judging from the downvotrs here, it’s fair to say that a lotmof people are perfectly fine with paying to get screwed over

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          Woah chill dude. I never said you were a bad guy. In fact, I get the frustration. I even agree with it to some extent. I just don’t think a lot of people being temporarily inconvenienced is a justifiable excuse to go throwing people into jail willy nilly. Let professionals figure out what happened, let the judges decide if it was actually a criminal offense or just a fuck up of epic proportions, then let the consequences roll out accordingly.

          If people are dying (I’m not sure), then I think we need to be acting in greater earnest.

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      Sure, throw people in jail who haven’t committed a crime, that’ll fix all kinds of systemic issues

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        If you make decisions (typically focussing on profit over anything else) that causes so much disruption, time, and money (not to mention the possibility of risking lives), then yeah, that is a crime.

        As always, if I do something like that, I get jailed. If a CTO causes it,.it’s cost of business,.let’s hand slap the company, and act as if nothing happens. Fuck them, you get paid for this. You fucked it up, you get to he actually be held responsible.

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      Crowdstrike took Debian and Rocky down earlier this year due to a bad update… Linux is not immune.

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        And?

        Debian is a FREE (as in beer) AND a free (not as in beer but as in freedom) system maintained mainly by volunteers which has an actual focus on us, the end users.

        Microsoft, on the other hand, makes us pay through the nose for shit systems that all have focus on Microsoft, NOT on the end user. If you make me pay and spy on me and serve me ads, then at the very fracking least I expect you to take responsibility when you fuck up, and paye for my lost time and money. However, as windows fracks up just about every week, Microsoft would be bankrupt within a month if they’d have to do that.

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          Y’know, I’m pretty deep in the FLOSS brainrot, but as someone who: A. Daily drives Fedora and Debian B. Works for an MSP and deals with Windows daily

          Most companies cannot afford the productivity, monetary, or labour hour investment that is involved with changing to a whole new OS and re-training all of the workforce. Thats even if you ignore that switching to Linux generally also involves changing some percentage of programs that are used for business critical processes.

          I love Linux, but it’s not meant for every situation

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            And a lot of times it actually isn’t that hard. I’m currently the CTO of a medium medical company and we will transition to Linux over the next 2 years. All the work will be browser based, you don’t need windows for that. Hell, you don’t need windows for anything, except a few inhouse developed apps, which you can restructure to Linux yourself.

            A lot of times it’s more lack of will than lack of ability, even though the wins are right there for the taking

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      Keep dreaming. Maybe next year Linux on desktops will increase by another 0.2% and you can post hundreds of articles about how the “age of Linux” is coming… again.

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      “Also, STOP USING WINDOWS FOR DESKTOP FOR FRACK SAKE. Switch to Linux already, I’m getting tired of having to read this shit.”

      1000% agreed

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        Lol good fuckin luck.

        In a corporate environment you just aren’t getting what you need out of Linux that you don’t of windows for many of the kinds of endpoints affected.

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            Yeah, good luck telling my IT department to deal with Wine for every piece of software we require that doesn’t have a Linux version or even some kind of replacement.