WHITE WOMEN CHOSE THE DUDE THIS ELECTION AND THE DUDE WAS TRUMP
Yeah, but there are a LOT of white women in the south.
Absentee ballots are cool and all, I’m sure southern husbands and fathers love being able to ‘check everyone voted properly’.
I get your larger points, but do you really believe millions of women had their vote “verified” by their brother or husband??
I 100% guarantee it.
Understand dominionism, those men think they’re doing their job sheparding their flock.
These are the same chucklefucks who still do purity rings and dad-daughter “promise” dances, yeah the attitude of women as property still exists in large swaths of this country
Why didn’t they do this in 2020?
The religious wacko part or the voting? The former has been going on for a loooong time, the latter I think is a combo of voter apathy, intense propaganda and the result of decades of planning by conservatives who hated having to abandon Deutchsland for Argentina
You guys need to quit watching so much TV.
In related news:
The sensational headline you sought out doesn’t actually describe what these laws are in place for (but, hey, that’s why you lot always go looking for sensation headlines! Nobody ever reads what’s actually going on anyway!)
Oh I see. You just hate that men get any kind of thought in cases of pregnancy during divorce.
Women should be allowed to get pregnant (by her husband or otherwise) then divorce the asshole and claim alimony and child support based on their word alone!!
All of these laws are in place to give the husband at least a TINY chance to present a case for themselves. Even then, courts generally side with women anyway, so it usually doesn’t matter.
But whatever, FUCK THOSE MEN!! THEY SHOULD ALL GO TO HELL AND PAY ME MY MONEY!!!
but are those women so feeble that they just did what they were told? In PA MI WI??? This reeks of hacked elections.
I really think you underestimate the frequency of rural domestic abuse.
You know, I read shit like this and even though they had their fuckups, I recognize my parents did some major things right. We had family voting might, amicably discussed the candidates and issues, and then they showed us you could knowingly vote differently and still be a loving family.
Open fascists weren’t on our ballots until recently which made disagreement significantly more palatable. Talking about the rest of the ballot tho, honestly on some measures I don’t care that much and others in my family do. I’ll gladly lend my voice/vote on issues my family cares about if they’ll do the same for me (and they have).
Open fascists weren’t on our ballots until recently
Nixon was fash af. Reagan wasn’t much better. The white Christian nationalism of the modern conservative movement has been around for a long time
Thays why I have never voted for a republican and I never will.
“My house my votes”
God, the whole of Lemmy is such a meme right now; the majority of women voted Trump as well!
Lmao!..
The majority of White women voted for him 53% to 45% (not sure what percent of those are in the evangelical christian demographic).
Women overall voted against him 53% to 45%. Funny how those numbers were the exact opposite. Anyway it was a smaller margin than Dems were hoping/expecting from women.
source: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls
I think the ones who didn’t vote for Harris are desperately rationalizing to blame Trump on somebody besides themselves.
no, 20 million Americans withheld their votes.
that greasy orange fuck actually lost votes.
2020 had some of the easiest voting rules in US history, with universal no excuse mail in.
Democrats were more likely to mail in votes than Republicans. So (largely Republican) states cracked down on mail in voting shortly after the election.
The participation plunge you’re seeing is largely the result of that decision
Turnout was still pretty high compared to historic numbers.
So far second highest recorded turn out and it will be weeks for the final number. Keep in mind spoiled ballots will get added at some point (to the turnout count not to actually count)
Yeah but only 39% of bears voted Trump.
ya, but what if you pretend that women are some monolithic left-wing force that totally would take the bear, instead of people? the bear v. man is literally a left wing bubble thing.
Its weird that the same group of people are ignoring women’s ability of independent thoughts and actions are the same ones saying (not unreasonably) the other side is dehumanizing women.
Not true, but nearly half of them did
the majority of women voted Trump as well!
White men and women specifically
Mine is one race you could probably justify a hate crime on.
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah no. Either Musk or Putin learned how to hack without detection. It’s WHOLLY unlikely that majorities of women were polled, a gender gap was polled, and somehow that all magically disappeared. That is a STRONG indicator of hacking.
Either you don’t understand what you’re replying to or you don’t understand statistics… Or you don’t understand a lot of things.
So I guess you voted for Trump
Hah, are you serious…?
Why would you use the word meme in your analysis if your problem is that the content is meme-like
Because it’s like a meme… what?
it feels like you’re doing the thing that you’re complaining about
Check the statistics for white women :)
Yeah, i think i’m swearing off white women too. It would be tough because i’m white as fuck but i’m considering it.
The “man or bear in the woods” question is obvious ragebait. Thinking people don’t entertain hyperbolic hypotheticals that are proposed to sow divisive rhetoric.
The gender war is a psy-op proxy for the class war.
::: To be clear, I’m a proponent of market-socialism economically who wants a functional federal republic like we’re supposed to have on paper. I am not a “tankie”, nor do I want anything to do with them.
When I say “class war”, I say we fight it with the ballot, and a gun if it gets ugly to the point of no recourse (that is still far away, thankfully).
I mean, what the fuck are people gonna do against Predator drones with Hellfires? Be vaporized as cannon fodder? We’d be gullible rubes for the whims of the “enlightened LeAdErS of the People’s Revolution”, that’s what. :::
Pretty much.
In hiking groups, certain people bring it up, and it’s the kind of people you expect.
The rest of us just go hiking
There’s also a TON left unsaid in it. Is the man armed? are you armed? Is it a hiking path? Is it the middle of the forest? Are you camping or just walking? what kinda bear? is the bear just walking or is it attacking?
You’re overthinking it; those questions are totally irrelevant to the point. Though, to be fair, the question doesn’t exactly specify this at face value.
It’s really just a thought experiment: would you rather take your chances, alone, with a random bear/man in the woods? You don’t get a weapon. You dont get to choose which man or which bear, or what they do. It’s a gamble.
If I’m in the woods, it’s because I don’t need nor want human interaction. Please pick the bear and leave me the fuck alone thanks.
I think in this situation it is probably more important to look into why more than half the population chose Trump.
Probably because most voters want someone that reminds them of their dad as the President.
wants to have sex with them?
Just give up humans, you have no future, you are not viable as a species.
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Or discourse like that could be why young men are choosing the right.
They’re so wrong to do so in such a vindictive way.
… but that doesn’t mean they’re not doing it. People are petty, including men.
I’m honestly not sure it’s even vindictive. Maybe in some cases, it’s a big complicated issue.
We get such different news in the age of algorithms, they may not even see it as vindictive. I think it’s easy to pull back from a group that paints your identity as a villain, and I think that’s likely some of it.
True. The stereotype is jilted incels but that’s probably not always the case.
They are choosing it because Theo Von / Shane Gillis / Tony Hinchcilff / Dana White / Joe Rogan / UFC / Russian propaganda / random MAGA streamers.
All of whom thrive on stuff like man vs bear discourse
I think it’s too complex to attribute to one thing, I think you’re right that the alt right social media pipeline is real and an issue.
I’m just saying I understand not identifying with a group who trash an identity a person belongs to. They just disengage. Nobody likes being put into a box that paints them as a villain.
Just my opinion of course, the left (as a social group) can examine the current discourse and try to adjust, maybe like framing it as a class struggle or a liberty struggle, or continue being divisive and risk being overridden.
Trump learned how to win friends and influence people from Carnegie. People just want to feel heard, doesn’t matter what you say back to them. It’s essentially slight-of-hand, but for feelings and emotions.
All those other guys know a cashcow when they see one.
It’s amazing how I’ve never ever seen a single thread on this metaphor and not seen at least two to three male users get furious and thus prove the metaphor 100% correct. Not once. Every single time. It’s like catnip they can’t resist it.
no, women chose the man (Trump)
That is not in agreement with exit polling, what is your source?
It’s amazing how I’ve never seen a single thread negatively generalize half the population and not seen at least two or three people from that half of the population get indignant. It’s almost like people don’t like being stereotyped.
Goofball.
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It’s like it’s some response to being insulted.
If you feel insulted by that then you’re exactly the kind of person it’s talking about.
Okay
Frankly at first I was angry at those who chose the bear, but after learning the majority of young men are republican I blame them less and less.
And this is why I choose the tree, you don’t even ask why, you just react
This is a graph showing that a fair number of them actually just chose the bear.
That statistic makes sense when considering less of the liberal and/or left turned out while the right held their numbers. Guess the right is more effective at getting their youth to participate in the system while the left in this age range are more disenfranchised every generation.
Correct me if im wrong, not American;
People in your family can know if you register to vote as a dem o rep right? I suspect that if voting registration was anonymous like normal countries a lot less white women would have voted for trump
Registration doesn’t require a party affiliation.
Party affiliation doesn’t require voting for the party you’ve affiliated with.
Who/what you voted for is anonymous.
Oh okay, now it makes more sense
You don’t have to be registered under a specific party I think. I’m not American, but you can register as an independent. And you don’t have to vote for the party you’re registered for. Actually I have no idea why you even register for certain parties in the first place
It’s so you can participate in primary elections for that party. Some people who vote Dem in the general election will sometimes register as Republican so that they can vote for spoiler candidates in the Republican primary. There’s not enough people doing it for that plan to really have any impact though.
But the same logic applies if you are trying to hide your votes from nosy family. Family members have enough info on you to be able to look up your party registration so if you are afraid of them causing drama, you can register as whatever party the rest of your family is registered as and then vote for the other side in the general election. The actual votes you cast cannot be traced back to you… Which can raise other concerns like not being able to verify if your vote actually counted.
I’m in California, and the only things party registration seem to affect are (1) (important) which primary you vote in and (2) (not so much) what type of political spam you get, not the amount.
registered maybe, but whether dem or rep is not chosen
Wait… didn’t he win with 57%?
Meaning women were more likely to vote Trump than men?
The cohort age 18-29 as a whole were under the national average. But men aged 18-29 we’re just barely under the national average
while women were massively under the nation average.edit although true it can’t be inferred from this graph alone
That is why people in general are abandoning the democrats
I don’t understand how that tracks. Please elaborate.
No
Edit: Well I should explain why I won’t. I don’t want to get screamed into being another person abandoning the democrats.
Your team needs some serious work on their messaging.
The first sentence is a moot point to get people to think. I’m not american.
Edit 2: Yeah, should’ve stuck with “No”
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Ah yes, that is why they vote for the guy that explicitly said that Benny should hurry up and finish the job
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Enjoy watching the new admiration activity assisting in the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian population from Gaza.
For all their flaws, the Democrats were at least resistant to the permanent removal of the Palestinian population. This new administration is going to offer Egypt and Jordan billions of dollars to take in the refugees and then there will never be another Palestinian in Gaza ever again.
And you think trump will be any better in Gaza? He hates brown people.
a whole 7% polled. truly representative/s
It’s just saying that 7% of the total people they surveyed fall into the group “men 18-29”. Without knowing how many people were actually polled and how they were selected we cannot say anything about the statistical validity of the sample.
gotta be more than 7% of the population at 18-29.
According to wikipedia, 15-24 age group is about 13% of the population. 18-29 is a slightly older and wider range, so could be 14%. Then obviously only half of those are men, so we end up at 7%. That’s totally plausible
i still think such numbers are underestimates since the amount of people that actively avoid being counted are steadfast about it
Well of it is randomly selected, then i think it is?
and the other 93% are chopped liver because they dont register. kayo, pectate
