• booly@sh.itjust.works
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    The Jewish community is waking up to this administration using them

    Is it, though? The conservatives still seem like they’re on the Trump train, and the liberals were never on board with him in the first place.

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      Oorah types (like, Fiveish should be considered antisemitic as fuck - it looks like something 4chan would have designed as a mascot), Bibi and his ilk, Zionists in general will always be team Trump. They don’t care about real antisemitism, they’ve redefined antisemitism to be criticism of the state of Israel. They’ve been collaborating with insane Christian accelerationists, who want the conflict in Palestine to accelerate so that the Second Coming and apocalypse will happen - I could totally see Trump encouraging the build of the Third Temple for example.

      “Jewishness” for this group of people serves the same purpose that the “Christian” identity served as Manifest Destiny slaughtered Native American tribes. A loincloth justification for a desire to destroy a despised racial group and take their land.

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      Fuckin sweet I made the cut.

      When do we… You know … Do it? Asking for a friend.

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      Ideally, Nazis could be persuaded to not be Nazis anymore before applying the final solution. It has happened.

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        How many people do they get to deport to slave camps while we are still trying to persuade them? Is there any upper limit guideline?

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          The higher ups doing the crimes against humanity are too far gone. It’s supporters at the lower end that might have some possibility of redemption.

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          How many people do they get to deport to slave camps while we are still trying to persuade them?

          1. Change your heart or die
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      People aren’t born Nazis. Their minds and ideology can change.

      The ideology needs to die, not the people.

      Dehumanization is not the way.

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        That would be the approach before the war broke out.

        They have been waging war for a few years since Jan 6 2021

        Being polite isn’t gonna help

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          There’s a lot of space between politeness and murder.

          Who counts as Nazi for you? Everyone who voted for Trump? That would be tens of millions of deaths. A bigger bloodbath than Mao.

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            I’m not gonna split hairs, here’s a simple Nazi test:

            If you think a person doesnt have a right to exist or deserve the exact same freedoms as everyone else because of how they were born, you are a Nazi.

            It’s easy!

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                Huh, that high pitched whistling noise, what is it? It seems to be some kind of whistling, at a level only audible for dogs.

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                Hmm I dunno

                I’d have to ask if they believe some people aren’t entitled to the same rights as everyone else like I said.

                I told you my criteria.

                If you think someone can be born “less than” another human, you are a Nazi.

                It’s easy. Quit trying to make it hard.

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            Lemmy users will sit on their hands while Trump is elected because Kamala=genocide then unironically downvote people questioning if murdering the 70 million people that voted for him is perhaps an overreaction.

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            Everyone who voted for Trump?

            I don’t know that I want all of them dead but I certainly would be completely ambivalent if they all suddenly died. And that includes family members of mine.

            Whether they’re Nazi only shifts to actively wanting them dead, being a Trump supporter or voter in of itself means they are selfish pieces of shit and I don’t care about their well being, they are bad people making everyone else’s lives actively worse. Their selfishness, stupidity, and evil are literally burdens on the good people who live among them.

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        You can recognise someone as fully human and capable of redemption and still fight them because their actions endanger the helpless.

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        Looks like the harder part (nowadays) would be having a phone with a headphone jack. Maybe they’ve made newer models with USB-C, BT (though the cord is part of the fun!) and/or lightening…?

        Edit: A quick search shows they are indeed still available with adapters.

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          Didn’t any of your phones come with the usb-c to headphones jack adapter? I still got mine from a while back and even one from when apple used to do that as well. If not, I don’t think they cost too much to get one online.

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            An old landline would have sounded better, this was like two simplex radios that are just out of tune with each other. You could hear the other person talking but it was stacticy and you really had to work to make out what they were saying.

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    I, an unemployed, heavily drinking non-morning person, wakes up quicker than the Jewish community, apparently.

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    I honestly don’t think I know a single Jewish person who supports Trump and the current batch of Republicans. Nor do I think any of them approve of what is happening with Palestine (although this topic has a lot more variety in opinions and emotions).

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      I know plenty of Jewish people, dozens I’d say. I knew one who was a republican in the Bush era, and I’ve heard some people think he might be into Trump, but we’ve all lost touch with him. I know of exactly one Jewish guy who must’ve been in his late 80s during the first Trump term, who was into him. He passed away sometime in the first term, and while he’d always been a conservative, a lot of the people who knew him think maybe something had gone wrong in his head due to his age, that maybe he didn’t really understand. It was very sad to us, because he was a man of exceptional intelligence.

      I would say most of them felt offended by some of the rhetoric at Palestine protests, or felt that it was offensive to start protests before the Israeli response had even started. As far as I know, all of them soured on the response by 1/1/24 if not sooner, and at this point are fully disgusted with it.

      I’m really not sure who these Jews are that have been on board with any of this. Maybe it’s an Orthodox thing? These are all just regular urban and suburban folks who don’t wear yarmulkes and might go to a temple once a year. Pretty secular, I guess you’d say.

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    Can we get a fresh statement from the ADF about Elon’s nazi salute?

    No?

    OK.

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    man who has his panties in a bunch about the antisemitism at Harvard

    Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?